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Comments on: Tonight in Buenos Aires I Saw a Black Man http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/ Just another WordPress site Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:50:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.2 By: Francesco http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13245 Wed, 21 May 2014 15:03:36 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13245 You actually make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this matter to be really something that I think I would
never understand. It seems too complex and extremely broad for me.
I’m looking forward for your next post, I will try to get the hang of it!

Feel free to visit my page … livres mobi (Francesco)

By: walter http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13204 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:14:47 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13204 How would you feel if you are a person of color living in among a middle class white society? I suspect that somehow you have to surrender, that is to say, you have to assimilate. And for me assimilation is a sort of surrender. My experience is not that of Black person but that of the son on immigrants in Argentina, an immigrant myself in France and in the US. I find that “migration”, being an in-migrant is general feeling share by people of color, even if you are off-white, and by queers in a milieu where heterosexual are the majority. It is not a personal issue, it is embedded in the logic of coloniality.

By: walter http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13203 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:08:22 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13203 En Abril, a las jornadas de Kusch. Saludos, W

By: Federico Ferrer http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13201 Sat, 08 Mar 2014 00:23:32 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13201 Estimado Walter, disculpe que escriba por este medio pero no me deja escribir en la opción de contacto.

Quería saber si tenia planeado venir a la Argentina durante este año?


By: julia lindbeck http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13193 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 01:11:35 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13193 me interesó mucho el título, y lo he leído con interés, Walter, pero de pronto me gustaría saber más sobre esta frase.

“But apparently, in Argentina, if you marry a white-woman from this area and you are a black man, you have to surrender.”

By: Ryan McCoy http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13179 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:31:46 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13179 Professor Mignolo,
Thank you for your response. I am currently reading the piece you recommended by Maldonado-Torres, and I have also read the letter which was very interesting and revealing.
As for debate, it is a very complex activity, which is why I sort of skimmed over it in my initial comment. The particular form of debate that I participate in is called policy debate. Students are expected to debate both sides of a resolution, which this year is, as I said, “Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic engagement with Cuba, Mexico or Venezuela.” Traditionally, the way to defend that resolution is to advocate a policy by the US government. For example, this year, many teams advocate that the government should remove the Cuban embargo.
However, when I am called to defend the resolution, I do so in a different way. My argument is that a pre-requisite to effective engagement is a project of epistemic disobedience. We offer studies and data which support the idea that the foreign policy community in the US is flawed now – it views policy in Latin America in a self-interested way which preferences the United States’ strategic interests above all else. Then we say that any policy we would defend would be steeped in this flawed form of knowledge production, which would create disastrous consequences, even if we have the best of intentions. I think that this is in line with your philosophy, but I’d love to hear your thoughts on this advocacy and any tips you would have for refining and improving it.
I am not sure that I understand what you mean when you say “Arguments are fine but you can argue opposite arguments by remaining a subject similar to the subject that put forward the arguments that you are rebuking.” Initially, I thought that you were saying that it is important to argue both sides of an issue in order to understand it more fully. However, after thinking about it a bit more, I think you might have meant that the subject is the key because the only way to advocate flawed, colonial arguments is to have a flawed, colonial perspective. Could you please shed some more light on what you meant? I will anxiously be awaiting another reply, because this conversation has already been very helpful and informative.
Thank you,

By: walter http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13165 Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:02:45 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13165 Thanks Ryan for this. I would like to know more about the debates you are talking about and particularly on this sentence: “I have been reading an advocacy of epistemic disobedience in the debate sphere, with the fundamental idea being to interrupt and challenge the dominant views and paradigms of engagement put forth in the activity.”

On subjectivity and decoloniality, well you cannot decolonize any thing by public policity, military intervention or any other means while the subject and the subjetivity remains modern and complicitous, knowingly or not with, imperial designs. So since coloniality of knowledge is coloniality of being (there is an article by Maldonado Torres “On the coloniality of being” that you can find in the web. This is part of the story the other is decoloniality of being. We are doing that through reworking aesthetics/aesthesis, for aesthesis means sensing, sensibility, and “artistic expressions” is one way of working toward decoloniality of being, healing the colonial wound.

I recommend you read first, in this collection, the last piece, the letter by Michelle K. And you would understand better what coloniality of being, and decoloniality of being means.
Then you can read the first article on decolonial healing and also Robbie Shilliams article on the same. I am talking about subjectivity here, once you enter in that process (for it is a process, it is not like baptism where you become Christian in one day or getting a passport, it is a process, and it is in the process of decolonizing subjectivity, the person in the communal, not just the individual “a la americana” more the person in the communal, like in Native Americans life, that you would get into the process.

Arguments are fine but you can argue opposite arguments by remaining a subject similar to the subject that put forward the arguments that you are rebuking.

Hope it helps,



By: Ryan McCoy http://waltermignolo.com/tonight-in-buenos-aires-i-saw-a-black-man/#comment-13163 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:16:13 +0000 http://waltermignolo.com/?p=1197#comment-13163 Hello Professor Mignolo,

My name is Ryan McCoy, and I am a student at Brophy College Preparatory in Phoenix, Arizona. I am writing to you because recently I have become very familiar with your writings on decoloniality and epistemic disobedience. I participate in the youth activity called policy debate, where I work with and compete against students from across the country. This year, our topic, or resolution, was “Resolved: The United States federal government should substantially increase its economic engagement with Cuba, Mexico or Venezuela.”
Obviously, this topic brings up a lot of questions about the nature of US economic engagement with these countries, and as I was seeking out literature about the flawed background and historicity of our foreign policy, I stumbled across your work. Since then, I have been reading an advocacy of epistemic disobedience in the debate sphere, with the fundamental idea being to interrupt and challenge the dominant views and paradigms of engagement put forth in the activity.
With that long winded explanation out of the way, I wanted to ask for your thoughts on this advocacy. I won’t be using this correspondence as evidence, nor will I use it as an argument in debate, but I am very curious as to your thoughts about epistemic disobedience in the context of a youth activity like debate. Additionally, I wanted to ask you about your thoughts about subjectivity in relation to decoloniality – what, in your eyes, is the role of the individual in decolonizing and delinking from dominant Westernism? If you have already written about this, I apologize, but I’m not sure that I have been through all of your works yet. If not, do you have some other sources you think would be helpful for researching that aspect? I would be highly appreciative.

Thank you sincerely,
Ryan McCoy